WrapMail
  • Pitch Posted: June 19, 2008
  • Rating: 3.18
  • Votes: vote button 1572 vote button 495

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Z-Portal.uni.cc 6/19/08 6:33PM #
Umm... Or, for free, you could just add the advertisements to your mail signatures...
Z-Portal.uni.cc 6/19/08 6:58PM #
Also, it was interesting at first... but... you sorta lost me there... yeah... right... whatever... bye... see... just... like... that................... OKAY CYA BYE NOW!!!!!
Rolv Heggenhougen 6/20/08 11:28AM #
Let me reply to your post above: Advertisement to your email signature will be added on every reply to reply making the file size increase. Advertisement to your signature will not be clickable, nor trackable. The whole idea here is to NOT install anything on any desktop - imagine changing the signature across a large network. The wraps are added AFTER the email has left the desktop or cell phone.
Mike 6/20/08 11:47AM #
Pretty great idea and a massive market.
Hans Flekkefjord 6/20/08 11:49AM #
$5 x 1b corporate email accounts - hm - I say that's a large market (and residual)
Scott 6/20/08 11:50AM #
Z-Portal obviously does not "get it." Adding your corporate collateral to every email that gets sent out is pretty damn smart. And you can track who is clicking on the wrap. This essentially increases the sales and marketing team without hiring anyone new. Very cool.
Nancy 6/20/08 11:51AM #
Wonder if I could charge our vendors to be in a wrap?
Harry Eadon 6/20/08 11:54AM #
I have been using WrapMail for about six weeks. Most of the comments >90% have been positive. The only stumbling block to date is the proces in which two identical emails are sent, until the recipient acknowledges receiving the wrapped email. Not a big problem though.
Chad Jacobson 6/20/08 12:7PM #
We have used WrapMail successfully during a test period of six weeks. The ability to change the Wrap based on current marketing needs is valuable. It is also easy to update the wrap. We have added a Click&Go Live call button to route interested clients directly to us from a link on the wrap and it is working.
Heather 6/20/08 12:12PM #
Awesome concept. A no-brainer. How can I get me a Wrap?
David 6/20/08 12:19PM #
Very cool concept. Given the volume of email sent daily and the fact that it only costs $5 per employee per month, it could be a good return on investment.
Marcy Hoffman 6/20/08 12:23PM #
Any company that sends out emails will benefit from 'wrapping'. The comments above remind me of people who thought they didn't see the point of having a well designed web site or a blog. Emails are the most prevalant method of communication and 'wrapping' each email reinforces your brand and your message. Try it and be convinced.
Sean 6/20/08 1:21PM #
Why wouldn't you wrap? Great idea Rolv -- you are going to be a billionaire.
Jorge 6/20/08 2:6PM #
This has to be the best idea I EVER saw - every business in the world will be using letterheads for their emails - no-brainer. Stock for sale? Seriously!
David M 6/20/08 2:19PM #
I like the idea of having control of what is on the wrapper... some of the examples looked a little busy but if it works for them then great. I really like the idea and see the possibilities. As a small business operator this type of low cost marketing is genius.
David M, part 2 6/20/08 2:20PM #
My only question/concern would be for the recipients... how do they feel opening these emails on a regular bases, especially the people you email multiple times in one day?? Can it be turned off based on the recipient or can they "opt out" of the email like can be done today for email blast software?
Stu Parker 6/20/08 9:2PM #
Sorry to rain on your parade, but this is nothing new. I am aware of two providers of an identical product, each of which has been running for over 4 years! See Auakland, New Zealand-based http://www.mailprimer.com for example. (I have no connection to these guys at all, I just happen to know they exist). There's also another crowd based in Sth Africa, but am damned if I can remember their name.
Jorge 6/20/08 9:15PM #
This has to be the best idea I EVER saw - every business in the world will be using letterheads for their emails - no-brainer. Stock for sale? Seriously!
Jorge 6/21/08 5:18AM #
This has to be the best idea I EVER saw - every business in the world will be using letterheads for their emails - no-brainer. Stock for sale? Seriously!
Jorge 6/21/08 7:46AM #
This has to be the best idea I EVER saw - every business in the world will be using letterheads for their emails - no-brainer. Stock for sale? Seriously!
Linn 6/21/08 2:16PM #
I love this. Checked out what Stu said above but seems that WrapMail has a lot more features with their WrapMaker and all the variables that can be build in. Plus they're a US company and mailprimer is in New Zealand. So, local and more features for less money makes it an easy decision for me.
Rolv Heggenhougen 6/21/08 2:36PM #
David: yes, wraps can be turned on or off based on sender and/or recipient. wraps can also change on-the-fly or based on sender, recipient, time, subject, rotation, and/or dynamic feed
Mark 6/22/08 2:52AM #
Seems like a good idea, but i do wonder at how the recipient feels? It would be like getting junk mail or bacon for me. Nice idea though and i think that you will go far.
Tom 6/22/08 5:4AM #
It funny how some feel that an email with a picture is junk - junk to me are emails from people I don't know that push Viagra etc. I think an interactive letterhead really would improve the email - Coke has proved that braning works and all wrapmail does is to utilize those emails that get sent every day anyway. I think it's a GREAT idea
Petter Syse 6/22/08 5:38AM #
Great tool to promote our business as well as get specific sales pitches out. To bad we didn't have this when we started in 1989. Good work Wrapmail
Scott Barnett 6/22/08 6:30AM #
Great Idea! Marketing is the key to a successful business.
David M 6/22/08 8:33AM #
Great concept. Concise pitch. Endless possibilities. I think you're scratching the surface with your offering.
Michael 6/22/08 12:26PM #
Strange that this has not been around before. Very logic idea, with a great potential.
The Great Samboni 6/22/08 4:59PM #
This is a no brainer...great idea...
Jørgen Waaler 6/23/08 5:25AM #
We will defently try out WrapMail this fall in Norway. We will probalby be the first public company in Europe pursuing WrapMail!
Steve 6/23/08 5:34AM #
Great idea. Adds inventory to be sold to potential sponsors while providing them with additional exposure promoting partnership. Also like the tracking feature. Know that this will be a huge success.
Matt B 6/23/08 7:29AM #
Fantastic idea. Very sellable! But is it patentable?...
Michele S 6/23/08 8:28AM #
It's an unbelievable concept when you think about how many business emails get sent everyday. Utilizing this automatic marketing tool for such a low cost has to be a no brainer for any company. The trick is to get the word out and get the ball rolling. Every company should use Wrapmail to brand themselves with their clients. It will take off, just need to find the perfect avenue to achieve it.
Geoffrey (Australia) 6/23/08 9:35AM #
We've been using WrapMail for 3 months and love it! We circle 5 different wraps, each one focusing on a specific product group. The Instant Click notification is amazing - it's like a real live lead. making unlimited wraps in the Wrapmaker is a breeze - absolutely love it and would reccomend to anyone.
Harold, Result Corporation, Pompano Beach, FL. 6/23/08 11:0AM #
This is certainly a great way to promote your business through emails. Instead of sending out plain emails to your clients, it is now wrapped with links to your website....Great concept!
Jason 6/23/08 2:10PM #
I have seen a demo of this product and I haven't this impressed with a viral marketing tool in ages.
Stephanie 6/23/08 3:43PM #
Your pitch is very well done. Who would send a blank piece of paper to a potential client? I think it's great links would be clickable and trackable. This saves time trying to find someone's website and lets the company be aware of what is working or not working marketing-wise with their audience. When is this company going public so I can buy stock??
Thomas G 6/23/08 4:58PM #
As a Realtor this is the best ever! I set up the wraps so all the properties for sale rotate on the left side - when people click I know exactly what they're interested in. I have some clicks go directly to the MLS and some to 360 tours. The best part is that we did it for all the brokers and nobody had to learn anything - almost to obvious of a product - I was sold in about 2 minutes.
Hmmmm 6/23/08 8:33PM #
@Rolv, yes you can add a image with a link in your signature and track how many clicks it gets with a page set up to that product with Google analytics. (free) I had to watch it twice to see if I missed anything, but this can easily be done for free with HTML and clickable to a page that is tracked by Google Analytics. Am I missing something?
Henning - Denmark 6/24/08 5:27AM #
Hmmmm: I tried that - not the same at all. We have an exchange server and 233 users - WrapMail adds the wrap after the email has left the exchange server - actually we have many wraps and some rotate and some are sender specific. There's also a lot of reports including instant click alerts. Google analytics is nowhere near this solution. I suggest you look at that website again or email Rolv - he always answers. Customer service also the very best!
darren 6/24/08 6:18AM #
like many great ideas when you first hear of it you wonder how it has possibly taken this long for it to happen. simple, elegant, with massive brand communication potential.
Rolv Heggenhougen 6/24/08 6:42AM #
Thanks to all for all the great feedback - impossible for me to keep track and answer questions here so please email me any quations to rolv@wrapmailinc.com Thanks again and don't forget to WRAP IT UP!
Todd 6/24/08 9:40AM #
This seems like one of the times you say "Why didn't i think of that?" Genius. So, theres no spam? Impressive. Im in the marketing/sales business. Seems like an excellent tool.
Chris 6/24/08 10:2AM #
Right on. I want it.
Paul 6/24/08 10:49AM #
I am Remax realtor in the Cayman Islands and have been a "wrapper" for the last 2 years and it is amazing the response I get from my vendors and buyers. I have sold many homes using wrapmail. IT is an awesome marketing tool.
Daniel S. 6/25/08 12:19PM #
My business (chamber of commerce) started using WrapMail about 4 months ago and we have had a very positive response and experience thus far! Their staff has been a pleasure to work with and the product WORKS! I have also been able to turn it into a revenue generating tool for the business. So it pays for itself and then-some. Great service, product, and marketing solution! Recommend to all!
Elaine 6/26/08 2:12PM #
excellent
Jim 6/27/08 2:40PM #
cheese
Smoke 6/27/08 3:53PM #
The idea is OK albeit a bit mis guided. For new customers this is good but if I am sending emails to my existing clients or non sales related emails do I really want to spam them with banner ads? NO Has some uses but with all the blocking of images and Jscript in email I see more technical problems than financial gains. 5 per user per month - I send out about 250 emails a month - thats a pretty high CPM for ads that are going to existing customers.
thomas 6/27/08 4:37PM #
Smoke - r u nuts? do your customers know all you have to offer? mine sure don't and I see wrapmail as a great way to "teach" my existing customers, friends and others about ALL we have to offer.
Josh 6/27/08 4:38PM #
If 5 bucks is too much for you then you have problems - you can't even get business cards for 5 bucks dude. Bottom line - if ONE of your 250 monthly emails got you a new client, what would it be worth to you (and I guarantee you that some of those emails will be forwarded to people you don't know? What do you mean SPAM? Do you email people you don't know? If so that is spam - spam has NOTHING to do with pictures or links!
Nicole 6/27/08 5:49PM #
I want to WRAP you :-)
Tom 6/27/08 7:54PM #
Can't wait to see the porn equivalent of this...
Ollie 6/28/08 3:32AM #
This product would be made much better with some higher quality wraps created by designers
Phillip 6/29/08 10:25AM #
Great idea - we all send emails these days and must admit they are very bare. Some times the best ideas are the simplest!
Kevin 6/29/08 11:6PM #
Why are you charging people $40 to join the WrapMail affiliate program?
Tom 6/30/08 5:28AM #
Wrapmail has helped me increase my website traffic. The reports also help show me what parts of my site are most popular. I used hyperlinks in my signature, but it did not have the same click throough as Wrapmail.
Sales 101 6/30/08 8:5AM #
Incubate, not innudate.
Ollie 6/30/08 10:0AM #
If i was regularly receiving emails with wraps on each day I would stop dealing with that company - too busy, too much noise, too distracting
Aussie Phil 6/30/08 3:50PM #
I like the idea a question I do have however is, whether the wrap component would display always or whether it would be just visible as an attachment which the recipient would have to click on. When I sometimes receive emails in Outlook, any pictures, even in the signature can only be viewed by clicking on a attachment. What is the situation with Wraps, and do we know how anti-virus email checking software would handle it.
REH 6/30/08 4:29PM #
WrapMail shows up with all pictures as opposed to most mass emails where you get the rex x and message to "right-click to download images". no problems experienced with antivirus filters
SB 7/2/08 3:26PM #
Just tried wrapmail for the first time...our wrap was designed overnight, and I had it within 24 hours. Our email now has letterhead with interactive links to our two sites, where email recipients can access our clients, our products, and even online photo albums, with one click on the email. And it cost our company $40 (for two months) to try it. I love this concept.
Zaf 7/3/08 1:14AM #
more like crap mail. its dumb... i dnt want my mail to be surrounded by dumb ads!
Carlos 7/3/08 11:48AM #
awesome idea - just like an old-fashioned letterhead just better being interactive. My company and my advertising driving more people to my site - chances are good I'll sell more - love it!
illiana 7/3/08 5:46PM #
best new idea I've seen in a long time
Michael L. 7/4/08 6:38AM #
Its all about getting traffic on the website. What better way to do it! We are a boutique hotel have being wrapping for over a year and are always finding new ways for it to meet our needs.
Wolfgang 7/4/08 7:55AM #
sounds like WackMail ;)
Jamie 7/5/08 8:47PM #
Uhh... I'd guess our presenter here has just made a whole bunch of accounts and voted for this video a heap of times. Look at the comments above. Language looking pretty similar with alot of the comments. Hmm.. clever idea for getting to the top of 'highest rating' though.
robert 7/5/08 9:58PM #
I agree - but great idea or no?
Spamala 7/8/08 11:15AM #
Boo, I hate this idea... Just what we need, more advertising to invade our personal space. Stay out of my inbox!
Theo 7/8/08 11:38AM #
what a simple idea. Great way to show what we do, a picture is worth...... Well done!
Hello 7/8/08 12:52PM #
An elevator pitch with an lcd screen? Unlikely...
Fred H 7/9/08 10:37AM #
great concept, I got it in 10 seconds
Andrea 7/9/08 7:20PM #
I like that using this as a tool for find missing children like your website describes is GENIUS. Could be a modern day milk carton.
Kevin 7/10/08 2:4AM #
I tested this and it doesn't work in Outlook or Entourage. The banners are rearranged and the links within the banners are stripped when the user receives them. Haven't tested Gmail or Yahoo mail but I bet they treat WrapMail generated email the same. Unless they can prevent email programs from removing and rearranging the WrapMail content within a given WrapMail generated email, then using WrapMail would be a complete waste of time and money. It would actually reflects bad on a company that uses it; what would you think of a company that sends you scrambled and randomly placed banners within an email? They will either think your company is so incompetent that you can't even send a functional email or wonder if you are spamming them.
REH 7/10/08 10:7AM #
Kevin: We use Outlook and Entourage and have also tested just about every email client and web-based system out there without any problems. Feel free to email me at rolv@wrapmailincDOTcom and I'll reply with a wrapped email.
Dave Kustin 7/10/08 11:50AM #
@ Kevin - I use Entourage and it works perfectly. To echo Rolv, if you want to see a wrapped email from a computer using Entourage feel free to email me as well (dave@wrapmailinc.com) and I will reply with a perfectly wrapped email. Dave Kustin EVP Marketing, WrapMail
gene m 7/12/08 5:29PM #
There's got to be a lot of people saying "why didn't I think of that". Billion $ idea, congrats!
R. Getty 7/16/08 6:40PM #
Pretty cool. I suppose certain companies could include 3rd party advertising in their wraps...sports teams, arenas, travel companies.
esteban 7/17/08 12:10AM #
c'on people web 2.0? i would not put a dollar into this.
Régis 7/17/08 9:5AM #
This is crap. It's just another way to make emails even more unreadable, by adding more and more spam. In my company, as a client, if I ever receive this kind of email, I will just end my relationship with my provider.
George B 7/17/08 11:16AM #
Good idea. Don't understand the guy above, it is my letterhead and in my view that's not spam. Great way to promote my company for $5 a month.
Janice 7/17/08 5:59PM #
google potential or beyond!
Neil Patel 7/21/08 7:39AM #
Free with taking a cut or fee when the ad gets clicked is a better business model....
Oliver 7/23/08 8:24AM #
Turning my email into adverts, whether for my own company or not. I don't get it.
Rolv Heggenhougen 7/23/08 12:57PM #
It is called marketing. Do you have a letterhead or business card? Website? We use all these things to brand and market our repsctive companies and today most written communication is email - why not use that to market/Brand your company and drive traffic to your website? REH
Jerry 7/23/08 5:39PM #
I remember when almost everyone questioned having a website, now I am wondering why I don't have wrapmail. This will change right now! Great (and inexpesive) concept.
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David Peterson 8/7/08 12:36PM #
Rolv, I think that your company might be of some use within the entertainment industry. I was thinking that if you guys offered a different service towards the entertainment industry it would be a lot more profitable as well. If you would like to hear what I am thinking, please feel free to contact me at: worldwidetalentsearch@gmail.com
rick 8/9/08 2:26PM #
I get it, but it looks too much like my hotmail account interface.
Dave Kustin 8/10/08 5:4AM #
@Rick Rick, there is no interface for the the paid version. Employees send emails using their email client as they normally would. There is nothing to install and nothing to learn. There is an interface that we created for the Customer Control Panel where every account can be managed (create wraps, assign wraps to users, generate reports, etc..). Dave Kustin - CMO, WrapMail
LIsa Gibbons 8/26/08 2:2PM #
smartest idea I've seen! there's probably more emails sent every day than hits on google - that's a lot of available real estate to sell ones own company. brilliant!
Dave Kustin 8/26/08 6:9PM #
Lisa - thanks for the noticing. We are close to implementing another revenue model where organizations like government entities, colleges and large employers that are in the distribution business can actually monetize their emails. Think about that. We have a business model where we are paid per user AND a business model where we provide a way for organizations to make money (and us) with an existing asset. Pretty cool.
andrei-gl 9/1/08 1:57AM #
I LIKE IT , DUDE when I'll be rich and have companies, be sure that I will use WRAP MAIL !!! (of course, I doubt that that would ever happen)
Todd 9/1/08 1:55PM #
Seriously, this is boring. Its a small business idea, they will earn some money, and nobody will ever remember them. Whats the global market volume for this thing? 50 million? 100 million? Great. Not even close to what one expects from Techcrunch startups. There are many around here that have the potential to change the world, so I don't get all of you.
Claire 9/1/08 1:57PM #
I totally agree, Todd. Look at Syntha site, or Klatcher, or many others - I want to see BIG concepts that will change the world!
Dave Kustin 9/2/08 7:8AM #
Potential Global Market Volume: *1 billion corporate email addresses *@ $5 per user per month = $5bb market (monthly) or $60bb (annual) And that does not include our other streams of revenue from our free version and other programs. So, even if we capture a quarter of that market, we would, as you say...'be changing the world.' Dave
monique 9/4/08 4:43PM #
dave is right, that is a monster market. I bet there are more emails sent in the US than hits on Google!
Dan 9/12/08 8:55PM #
Why couldn't the company just add this to their email on their own?
Doug 9/13/08 11:50AM #
@Dan - are you for real? I tried once but to do this across a large company with various "skins", tracking etc - forget it unless you want to spens millions and years
Hates Ads 9/13/08 5:54PM #
Wait a minute…So this is an email that you receive from a company…and it’s littered with ads from that company. Let’s look at emails I usually get from companies – Now I’m just an average joe…. 1) Info that I’ve requested or availability of a product 2) Invoices …and I never “Forward” an email I receive Everything else is just Spam…now if these “wrapped ads” are only going to be in solicited emails and not sent out as spam…Why would you need this service….You have the info you need already or you are a customer and can find it on the companies site or you’re on their mailing list. We as consumers don’t need to be attacked by advertising on a regular basis. We know what we what most of the time. I see this “wrapped ads” as being a tool of spammers and spam tactics. …oh and I saw nothing about “pay per click” function? So wrapper ads makes only $5 a user???
Robert 9/14/08 7:49AM #
@ad hater Think you not get it. I see it as a letterhead for email where the client pays $5/user/month. Lots of people hate advertising but we all know it works. The main fact I think this adresses is the fact that my clients, prospects and friends do NOT know all products we offer - since I email these people anyway why not show them?
Rose 9/14/08 7:59AM #
I agree Robert: 100% Love the fact that we don't have to install anything on our 100+ computers and can vary the "wrap" with different senders.
Jayson B. 9/16/08 2:0PM #
Great even more ads, just what we need as consumers. Because we are dumb and don't know how to find out anything without getting fist f*ched my the bid ad machine!
Lori 9/16/08 4:13PM #
Love the concept, our company is signing up. Absolute no-brainer
Tarek 9/19/08 10:26PM #
Over 90% of the comments on this pitch are made by the same people, and the vote is also spammed. This guy promotes himself in a cheesy way. I know you're going to read this, sorry!
Rolv Heggenhougen 9/22/08 1:51PM #
so you're saying I am making all the positive and negative comments? How do I spam the vote? I have no problem with answering any comment/question but yours seem a tad of base.
Jose 9/23/08 2:56PM #
I do this in my emails already, it's not as spammy but gets the point across. Why do I need to pay for this?
Reid 9/23/08 9:50PM #
Wait a minute..."Funding $1.1m" and you need an Elevator pitch?
Josh 10/2/08 8:54AM #
Sorry, but I think this is completely obnoxious. Email is most effective when its signal-to-noise ratio is highest. The more spam and unwanted promotion that gets included, the less useful the tool becomes. People want less promotion in their email boxes, not more. Even for sales messages, less promotional content is typically more effective than traditional sell content these days. Also, all the examples are banner heavy, but the latest numbers from MarketingSherpa say 50+% of consumers and 90+% of business users have images in email turned off by default. Wouldn't this just clutter your mail with image placeholders? Yuck. No thanks.
Remy 10/3/08 12:23AM #
I find the idea interesting and smart but any given employee should be writing mostly to people who already know the company. In addition to this I'd be interested in knowing to how many different people a same employee writes to. If its, say 20 or 50 people reached per month (already knowing the company), 5$ a month could prove expensive. Maybe a shared revenue model could be more adequate... I'm sure this idea has a real potential. Well done.
Dave Kustin 10/3/08 6:34AM #
@Remy thanks for the input. The revenue sharing model you describe is being planned and implemented as we speak with Broward College. They have 30,000 active students and we will be wrapping their email traffic with a wrap that promotes the college AND will feature 3rd party sponsorship/ads. The revenue will be shared with the college. We are in discussion with 3 other colleges to do the same program. Think about this: there are more college emails sent on a daily basis then visits to Google.
Dave 10/5/08 1:56PM #
@Josh - WrapMail's patent pending technology embeds the images in the email - no placeholders or red Xs.
Shirley 10/7/08 10:54AM #
Awesome idea! And @Josh: BS! I use Microsoft Outlook and have not changed any settings - the Wrapmail demo came straight to my inbox with images visable and I could click on them. This could be the next Gorilla!
Harry Finer 10/7/08 10:57AM #
Josh: How many companies did you start? Maybe you're just here to criticize everyone? I, for one, love this emailwrap concept! HF
heh 10/16/08 8:26PM #
Great, just what i need, more advertisements in my email. Im sure this will make a lot of money, but I would be pissed to get one of these emails from a company I am already doing business with.
Dave 10/23/08 7:3AM #
@HEH don't you already see ads for products or from brands that you currently use? I'm sure you see plenty of ads all the time from the same brand of car that you drive, television you watch and computer/phone/MP3 player/PDA that you use. And guess what, they are simply trying to get more business from their existing customer base. That's life.
Bob 10/23/08 8:38PM #
Will this work for receipents that use Lotus Notes as their email client?
Bob 10/23/08 8:38PM #
Will this work for receipents that use Lotus Notes as their email client?
Bob 10/23/08 8:39PM #
Will this work for receipents that use Lotus Notes as their email client?
Bob 10/23/08 8:39PM #
Will this work for receipents that use Lotus Notes as their email client?
Bob 10/23/08 8:40PM #
Will this work for receipents that use Lotus Notes as their email client?
Dave, CMO WrapMail 10/24/08 3:53AM #
@Bob - yes.
Caleb 11/3/08 7:42PM #
As most of the mails sent out by companies are confidential, how do wrap mail deals with this issue as subscribers from wrap mail will need to forward mails to wrap mail before sending to recipients?
alpha 11/12/08 8:0AM #
How many Wrapmail employees are commenting here? This is a bad idea. It is a bad user experience since is too intrusive to a one/one communication. Not antispam friendly. Impossible to read in most mobile devices. Not cross email client compliant. Doesn't support dynamic content. For back and forward email the wrap makes the email heavy and hard to follow the thread. Templates available forced you to make you email look like a cheap old… really old school website. And I am using it only for two days I would say if you sell you products with annoying TV infomercials. This is the product for you.
alpha 11/12/08 8:1AM #
How many Wrapmail employees are commenting here? This is a bad idea. It is a bad user experience since is too intrusive to a one/one communication. Not antispam friendly. Impossible to read in most mobile devices. Not cross email client compliant. Doesn't support dynamic content. For back and forward email the wrap makes the email heavy and hard to follow the thread. Templates available forced you to make you email look like a cheap old… really old school website. And I am using it only for two days I would say if you sell you products with annoying TV infomercials. This is the product for you.
alpha 11/12/08 8:1AM #
How many Wrapmail employees are commenting here? This is a bad idea. It is a bad user experience since is too intrusive to a one/one communication. Not antispam friendly. Impossible to read in most mobile devices. Not cross email client compliant. Doesn't support dynamic content. For back and forward email the wrap makes the email heavy and hard to follow the thread. Templates available forced you to make you email look like a cheap old… really old school website. And I am using it only for two days I would say if you sell you products with annoying TV infomercials. This is the product for you.
alpha 11/12/08 8:1AM #
How many Wrapmail employees are commenting here? This is a bad idea. It is a bad user experience since is too intrusive to a one/one communication. Not antispam friendly. Impossible to read in most mobile devices. Not cross email client compliant. Doesn't support dynamic content. For back and forward email the wrap makes the email heavy and hard to follow the thread. Templates available forced you to make you email look like a cheap old… really old school website. And I am using it only for two days I would say if you sell you products with annoying TV infomercials. This is the product for you.
alpha 11/12/08 8:2AM #
How many Wrapmail employees are commenting here? This is a bad idea. It is a bad user experience since is too intrusive to a one/one communication. Not antispam friendly. Impossible to read in most mobile devices. Not cross email client compliant. Doesn't support dynamic content. For back and forward email the wrap makes the email heavy and hard to follow the thread. Templates available forced you to make you email look like a cheap old… really old school website. And I am using it only for two days I would say if you sell you products with annoying TV infomercials. This is the product for you.
alpha 11/12/08 8:3AM #
How many Wrapmail employees are commenting here? This is a bad idea. It is a bad user experience since is too intrusive to a one/one communication. Not antispam friendly. Impossible to read in most mobile devices. Not cross email client compliant. Doesn't support dynamic content. For back and forward email the wrap makes the email heavy and hard to follow the thread. Templates available forced you to make you email look like a cheap old… really old school website. And I am using it only for two days I would say if you sell you products with annoying TV infomercials. This is the product for you.
alpha 11/12/08 8:4AM #
How many Wrapmail employees are commenting here? This is a bad idea. It is a bad user experience since is too intrusive to a one/one communication. Not antispam friendly. Impossible to read in most mobile devices. Not cross email client compliant. Doesn't support dynamic content. For back and forward email the wrap makes the email heavy and hard to follow the thread. Templates available forced you to make you email look like a cheap old… really old school website. And I am using it only for two days I would say if you sell you products with annoying TV infomercials. This is the product for you.
alpha 11/12/08 8:4AM #
How many Wrapmail employees are commenting here? This is a bad idea. It is a bad user experience since is too intrusive to a one/one communication. Not antispam friendly. Impossible to read in most mobile devices. Not cross email client compliant. Doesn't support dynamic content. For back and forward email the wrap makes the email heavy and hard to follow the thread. Templates available forced you to make you email look like a cheap old… really old school website. And I am using it only for two days I would say if you sell you products with annoying TV infomercials. This is the product for you.
alpha 11/12/08 8:4AM #
How many Wrapmail employees are commenting here? This is a bad idea. It is a bad user experience since is too intrusive to a one/one communication. Not antispam friendly. Impossible to read in most mobile devices. Not cross email client compliant. Doesn't support dynamic content. For back and forward email the wrap makes the email heavy and hard to follow the thread. Templates available forced you to make you email look like a cheap old… really old school website. And I am using it only for two days I would say if you sell you products with annoying TV infomercials. This is the product for you.
Dave Kustin - WrapMail CMO 11/12/08 11:25AM #
@alpha - only two, the CEO and myself, the CMO, and we have answered questions and comments directly and have identified ourselves. As to your comments, you are completely wrong of course, as our system is compliant with 99% of every email client on the market. Supports dynamic content - we have many car/boat dealers and real estate agents DYNAMICALLY rotating inventory in their Wraps. Wraps render perfectly on mobile devices that are HTML compatible and if you have read this blog, you can see that ALL mobile devices and operating systems are moving to support HTML....
Dave Kustin, WrapMail CMO 11/12/08 11:25AM #
...The WrapServer removes the existing Wrap and replaces it with a new one around the entire thread and thus does not change/alter the 'weight' of an email at all. There are no templates, as clients use their own logos, graphics, trade dress, etc...I suspect you are using our Free version which is very much in beta, whereas our fully operational business solution is bug free and working well for thousands of clients. If you are really interested, you can contact me directly and I will set you up on our Pro version so you can see for yourself.
Mike Schinkel 11/19/08 10:41PM #
Interesting concept however I see two tactical problems: 1.) If people reply to the company for an email thread it could get ugly unless you strip the residual ads on inbound replies. 2.) $5/mon is the wrong price. Some people email for the company maybe 3 times per week while other's email for the company maybe 3 times per hour. You need to price on volume of email and not on a per person basis. This will be especially important for smaller cash-strapped companies who look at every dime.
Dave Kustin, WrapMail CMO 11/20/08 6:53AM #
@Mike - please read the previous post. Yes, the WrapServer will strip out the previous Wrap and 're-wrap' the entire thread. We used to have per email pricing but it posed confusion for prospects. We analyzed all customer data and traffic - 5 bucks was the average more or less. Much easier pricing to sell.
Meta 11/20/08 8:0AM #
Love it - the next winner in the online ad space. So simple - advertise for your own company, not someone else - I think I get it.
Don Rua 12/1/08 3:22PM #
Sounds like LetterMark.com which came out in 2000. -Strips out received html, replaces with the new. -No files travel with the email, pulled in dynamically in full html only when viewed -light on bandwidth -choice to use or not use right at send -choice of unlimited dropdown templates for sales vs support vs simple note, etc. -When sending to broad group automatically convertst internal addresses to text, external to html on same send. -Sold to enterprise customers, govt agencies, large law firms, etc -Content manager allows anyone in the company to alter their contact data, then every email they've ever sent now has the new info when people open it -layered permissions, -encryption option. -Included separate app to grab virtual cards and store them in visual rolodex as mini-html pages with links to maps, directions, v-card downloads right into outlook. Turns every employee at your firm into a marketing touchpoint.
Dave Kustin, CMO WrapMail 12/2/08 6:47AM #
@Don the last sentence says it all. Pretty close description to what we do.
Skeptical 12/14/08 1:15PM #
How the heck did this thing get over 1,100 votes? No other pitch is even close, and this idea sounds like it came out of my ass. (Someone's clearly gaming the voting system.)
Rick 12/14/08 7:42PM #
How is wrapmail better/different than a service like Aweber?
Dave, CMO WrapMail 12/15/08 6:22AM #
@Skeptical - don't hate. @Rick - they are newsletter, blasts, campaigns. WrapMail is all about 'everyday' email. The emails that all employees are going to send anyway.
kawter 1/19/09 11:19PM #
Isn't this called as-sense?
TMWade 1/27/09 3:48PM #
Very Very cool. I own a small business,but it might help me out as well. I would imagine this would be a great tool in merchandise. If i was a sports team and i wanted to sell hats and jerseys? wow
TMWade 1/27/09 3:49PM #
Very Very cool. I own a small business,but it might help me out as well. I would imagine this would be a great tool in merchandise. If i was a sports team and i wanted to sell hats and jerseys? wow
TMWade 1/27/09 3:50PM #
Very Very cool. I own a small business,but it might help me out as well. I would imagine this would be a great tool in merchandise. If i was a sports team and i wanted to sell hats and jerseys? wow
TMWade 1/27/09 3:50PM #
Very Very cool. I own a small business,but it might help me out as well. I would imagine this would be a great tool in merchandise. If i was a sports team and i wanted to sell hats and jerseys? wow
TMWade 1/27/09 3:50PM #
Very Very cool. I own a small business,but it might help me out as well. I would imagine this would be a great tool in merchandise. If i was a sports team and i wanted to sell hats and jerseys? wow
Random Viewer 1/30/09 7:50PM #
Wasn't this supposed to be 60 seconds? You didn't follow the basic set guidelines.
Dave 1/31/09 7:8AM #
It's like banner in Web pages : really few peoples care of them anymore and much few ones click on them. Our brain will filter this wrapped add after some time you get it and it will be unuseful... But it should work fine for very small businesses...
Dave 1/31/09 7:9AM #
It's like banner in Web pages : really few peoples care of them anymore and much few ones click on them. Our brain will filter this wrapped add after some time you get it and it will be unuseful... But it should work fine for very small businesses...
Dave 1/31/09 7:9AM #
It's like banner in Web pages : really few peoples care of them anymore and much few ones click on them. Our brain will filter this wrapped add after some time you get it and it will be unuseful... But it should work fine for very small businesses...
Dave 1/31/09 7:10AM #
It's like banner in Web pages : really few peoples care of them anymore and much few ones click on them. Our brain will filter this wrapped add after some time you get it and it will be unuseful... But it should work fine for very small businesses...
Dave 1/31/09 7:10AM #
It's like banner in Web pages : really few peoples care of them anymore and much few ones click on them. Our brain will filter this wrapped add after some time you get it and it will be unuseful... But it should work fine for very small businesses...
Dave 1/31/09 7:10AM #
It's like banner in Web pages : really few peoples care of them anymore and much few ones click on them. Our brain will filter this wrapped add after some time you get it and it will be unuseful... But it should work fine for very small businesses...
Peter 2/8/09 12:3AM #
A bit annoying to advertise like this to people who already correspond with your company. I can see them quickly getting fed up and marking your email as spam, or just blocking html.
Dave 2/8/09 4:16AM #
@Peter - those people can opt out of receiving wrapped emails with one click. Simple.
Marcus 2/26/09 1:5PM #
Maybe they'll make money, but it won't be by me clicking on their ads. If a company emailed me with that garbage, I'd ignore the message and go straight for the "unsubscribe" button, personal email or not.
Bubbles 3/7/09 2:42PM #
This is the next generation of spam as well as an invasion of the sender's and receiver's privacy. Enjoy your day in court.
Bubbles 3/7/09 2:42PM #
This is the next generation of spam as well as an invasion of the sender's and receiver's privacy. Enjoy your day in court.
Bubbles 3/7/09 2:42PM #
This is the next generation of spam as well as an invasion of the sender's and receiver's privacy. Enjoy your day in court.
Bubbles 3/7/09 2:43PM #
This is the next generation of spam as well as an invasion of the sender's and receiver's privacy. Enjoy your day in court.
Dave 3/9/09 7:44AM #
@Bubbles - you're an idiot and you do not understand the concept, watch it again. The sender is CHOOSING the put the wrap there and they control the content. How is that invasion of privacy?
Neil S 3/31/09 11:22AM #
Great idea, but it seems like it would get annoying as hell for the end user, even more so if it's being read on a mobile browser...
beh 4/19/09 9:10PM #
I just want to see it
REH 4/20/09 9:6AM #
Email info@Wrapmail.com
Jeremy 5/29/09 1:57PM #
I like it, and not so much. Offer the service to create the custom templates for your clients. Scale the per user fee based on account size. $4/per address /month < 20 email addresses $x/per address /month 21-50 addresses $x/per address /month 51-100 addresses You need to find the formula that will work for you. Also, the people a company generally emails are already doing business with said company. This isn't a a new "market" per se. It's an already tapped client base. Most receivers will want an opt out option from getting "spam". Marketing and sales is a rough business. If you make the experience a friendly one, and use it to build brand recognition (not selling product), you will provide a good product that will be well received

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